Latter Day Chad × Tim Ballard · Instagram · update of October 5, 2026

Who went first

Tim Ballard did. Sixty days before the group posts began, Ballard posted a video and credited Latter Day Chad. This page corrects what we said on October 4 and lays out how the group around them is built.

From our captures of Instagram’s own post data, October 4–5, 2026, plus one post checked live on Instagram. Public accounts are named; smaller accounts are letters A–K, the same letters as on our cards.

Correction to our October 4 post

On October 4 we wrote that February 18, 2026 was “the first time Tim Ballard and Latter Day Chad appear on a post together,” and that none of Chad’s earlier posts tied to Ballard. That was wrong. On December 20, 2025, Ballard posted a video and credited Chad as a collaborator. February 18 is still the first of the seven group posts.

The claim appeared on our card “The day it started,” our Facebook post, and our first write-up, “How the Instagram apostasy started.”

Dec 20, 2025first shared post. Ballard posted it and credited Chad
60 daysbefore the group posts began on Feb 18, 2026
1 of 1,463of Chad’s captured posts before Feb 18 ties to Ballard: this one
7 postsin the group run, Feb 18 – Apr 18, all uploaded by one host account

The post

The header reads “timballard89 and latterdaychad.” The caption is Ballard’s own, and opens: “Brandon, are you saying my doctrine is wrong?” Instagram dates it December 20, 2025. Checked on Instagram

Instagram post with header timballard89 and latterdaychad. Caption by timballard89 opens: Brandon, are you saying my doctrine is wrong? Dated December 20, 2025.
instagram.com/p/DSghot5ET_3 · screenshot taken October 5, 2026 (cropped; mouse pointer removed)

Timeline

DateWhat happenedWho postedStatus
Mar 2024 →Chad and C start co-posting. By Feb 18, 2026 they share 434 posts.—Our data
Nov 9, 2025Ballard credits F on a post. His first post with anyone in the group.BallardOur data
Dec 20, 2025Ballard credits Chad. Their first shared post.BallardChecked
Feb 18, 2026First group post: five credited accounts plus the host. Ballard and Chad are two of the five.latterdayavengerChecked
Feb 20 – Apr 18Six more group posts. Ballard and Chad on every one; the other three seats rotate through 11 accounts.latterdayavengerOur data
Jun 22, Sep 21Joint posts, now uploaded by Chad himself.ChadOur data

Checked seen on Instagram itself, screenshot kept. Our data from our captures of Instagram’s post data, not re-checked by hand.

The group was already there

These are the same 13 accounts as on our card “It started as a group”: Ballard (TB), Chad (LDC), and the 11 accounts that filled the other seats (A–K). Each line is a pair of accounts credited on the same post, counted across everything we have captured for them. The left map is everything before Ballard’s first group post. The right map is from February 18 on.

Before Feb 18, 2026

25 links · 634 shared posts
A–D: 1 shared post A–F: 1 shared post A–K: 1 shared post E–B: 1 shared post E–C: 1 shared post E–D: 1 shared post F–C: 1 shared post F–TB: 1 shared post K–B: 1 shared post LDC–TB: 1 shared post A–B: 2 shared posts A–E: 2 shared posts E–K: 2 shared posts LDC–F: 2 shared posts LDC–I: 2 shared posts A–LDC: 8 shared posts B–D: 5 shared posts E–LDC: 6 shared posts H–C: 13 shared posts K–LDC: 8 shared posts LDC–B: 11 shared posts C–D: 29 shared posts LDC–D: 37 shared posts LDC–H: 63 shared posts LDC–C: 434 shared posts LDC TB A B C D E F G H I J K

Feb 18, 2026 onward

48 links · 339 shared posts
A–E: 1 shared post B–C: 1 shared post B–D: 1 shared post E–C: 1 shared post E–D: 1 shared post E–H: 1 shared post E–TB: 1 shared post F–B: 1 shared post F–C: 1 shared post F–G: 1 shared post F–TB: 1 shared post H–G: 1 shared post H–I: 1 shared post H–J: 1 shared post H–TB: 1 shared post I–J: 1 shared post I–TB: 1 shared post J–TB: 1 shared post K–G: 1 shared post LDC–I: 1 shared post LDC–J: 1 shared post A–B: 2 shared posts A–C: 2 shared posts B–G: 2 shared posts B–TB: 3 shared posts E–LDC: 2 shared posts G–C: 2 shared posts G–D: 3 shared posts G–TB: 2 shared posts H–D: 3 shared posts K–C: 3 shared posts K–TB: 2 shared posts LDC–B: 4 shared posts LDC–F: 2 shared posts LDC–H: 4 shared posts TB–C: 2 shared posts A–D: 5 shared posts A–LDC: 6 shared posts A–TB: 5 shared posts H–C: 5 shared posts K–D: 6 shared posts K–LDC: 7 shared posts LDC–G: 6 shared posts LDC–TB: 12 shared posts TB–D: 6 shared posts C–D: 32 shared posts LDC–D: 51 shared posts LDC–C: 139 shared posts LDC TB A B C D E F G H I J K
Key
TB · Tim BallardLDC · Latter Day ChadA–K · the other seat-fillers
Line colour = shared posts for that pair (count of links: before · after)
1 post (10 · 21)2–4 (5 · 15)5–19 (6 · 9)20–99 (3 · 2)100+ (1 · 1)

What the structure shows:

The data shows who was credited with whom, and when. It does not show who is behind the smaller accounts.

The seven posts as algebra

Not yet peer reviewed

The math in this section has not been reviewed by anyone outside our team. The counts come straight from the posts; the design-theory reading and the symmetry calculation are our own and may contain errors. Corrections are welcome. The matrix and the pair counts are on GitHub.

Treat the accounts as points and the seven group posts as blocks: 13 points, 7 blocks, 5 points in each block. That is an incidence structure, and its algebra says a lot about how the posts were put together.

The incidence matrix N. One row per account, one column per post; a filled cell means the account is credited on that post. Rows are grouped by symmetry (explained below). The right-hand column is r, the number of posts each account is on.

Feb 18 Feb 20 Feb 22 Feb 25 Mar 30 Apr 10 Apr 18 r TB 7 LDC 7 orbit A 4 B 3 C 2 D 4 E 1 F 1 G 2 K 1 fixed H 1 I 1 J 1 orbit
Key
TB credited on the postLDC creditedA–K creditedempty cell = not on that postbracket = an orbit or the fixed points

Pairs come in bundles of ten. The pair counts are N·Nᵀ = ΣB 𝟙B𝟙Bᵀ, a sum over the posts. Each post with five credited accounts adds a complete set of ten pairs at once. So the lines in the maps above arrive ten at a time: that is the arithmetic of the format, not ten separate choices.

TB TB TB–LDC: 7 TB–A: 4 TB–B: 3 TB–C: 2 TB–D: 4 TB–E: 1 TB–F: 1 TB–G: 2 TB–K: 1 TB–H: 1 TB–I: 1 TB–J: 1 LDC LDC LDC–TB: 7 LDC–A: 4 LDC–B: 3 LDC–C: 2 LDC–D: 4 LDC–E: 1 LDC–F: 1 LDC–G: 2 LDC–K: 1 LDC–H: 1 LDC–I: 1 LDC–J: 1 A A A–TB: 4 A–LDC: 4 A–B: 2 A–C: 2 A–D: 3 A–E: 1 A–F: 0 A–G: 0 A–K: 0 A–H: 0 A–I: 0 A–J: 0 B B B–TB: 3 B–LDC: 3 B–A: 2 B–C: 1 B–D: 1 B–E: 0 B–F: 1 B–G: 1 B–K: 0 B–H: 0 B–I: 0 B–J: 0 C C C–TB: 2 C–LDC: 2 C–A: 2 C–B: 1 C–D: 1 C–E: 0 C–F: 0 C–G: 0 C–K: 0 C–H: 0 C–I: 0 C–J: 0 D D D–TB: 4 D–LDC: 4 D–A: 3 D–B: 1 D–C: 1 D–E: 1 D–F: 0 D–G: 1 D–K: 1 D–H: 0 D–I: 0 D–J: 0 E E E–TB: 1 E–LDC: 1 E–A: 1 E–B: 0 E–C: 0 E–D: 1 E–F: 0 E–G: 0 E–K: 0 E–H: 0 E–I: 0 E–J: 0 F F F–TB: 1 F–LDC: 1 F–A: 0 F–B: 1 F–C: 0 F–D: 0 F–E: 0 F–G: 1 F–K: 0 F–H: 0 F–I: 0 F–J: 0 G G G–TB: 2 G–LDC: 2 G–A: 0 G–B: 1 G–C: 0 G–D: 1 G–E: 0 G–F: 1 G–K: 1 G–H: 0 G–I: 0 G–J: 0 K K K–TB: 1 K–LDC: 1 K–A: 0 K–B: 0 K–C: 0 K–D: 1 K–E: 0 K–F: 0 K–G: 1 K–H: 0 K–I: 0 K–J: 0 H H H–TB: 1 H–LDC: 1 H–A: 0 H–B: 0 H–C: 0 H–D: 0 H–E: 0 H–F: 0 H–G: 0 H–K: 0 H–I: 1 H–J: 1 I I I–TB: 1 I–LDC: 1 I–A: 0 I–B: 0 I–C: 0 I–D: 0 I–E: 0 I–F: 0 I–G: 0 I–K: 0 I–H: 1 I–J: 1 J J J–TB: 1 J–LDC: 1 J–A: 0 J–B: 0 J–C: 0 J–D: 0 J–E: 0 J–F: 0 J–G: 0 J–K: 0 J–H: 1 J–I: 1
Key · each square is a pair of accounts, coloured by λ = how many of the seven posts they share (count of pairs in each band)
never together (38)1 post (26)2 posts (6)3–4 posts (7)all 7 posts (1: TB–LDC)diagonal (the account itself)orbit

Deliberately unbalanced. In a balanced design every account would be on the same number of posts and every pair would meet equally often. Here r = 7 for Ballard and Chad and 1 to 4 for everyone else; the pair TB–LDC meets on all 7 posts, and only 40 of the 78 possible pairs ever meet at all.

Take out the fixed pair. Ballard and Chad are in every block, so remove them and look at what is left: seven triples on the other eleven accounts.

ABC · ACD · AED · ABD · FBG · HIJ · KGD

The first four triples all sit inside {A, B, C, D, E}, and A is in all four: a core. Then it branches, with B, D and G carrying over as bridges. HIJ stands on its own and shares no account with any other post.

Symmetry. The automorphism group Aut(N) is every way of relabelling the 13 accounts that carries the set of seven posts onto itself. Computed on these posts: |Aut(N)| = 12 ≅ S₂ × S₃, with orbits {TB, LDC} and {H, I, J}, and every other account fixed.

The order of the posts has no symmetry. The seven posts also come in time order, Feb 18 to Apr 18, and the letters A–K follow it. A time order is a chain, and a finite chain has only one order-preserving relabelling: leave everything where it is. Charles Holland studied the group of such relabellings of an ordered set (Michigan Math. J. 10, 1963). Here every one of the 12 symmetries sends each post to itself (TB and LDC are on all seven; H, I and J only on Apr 10), so they all leave the time order alone: the symmetry is in the accounts, not in when they posted.

Large orbits mark interchangeable seat-fillers; fixed points mark accounts the structure depends on. This describes the posting pattern only, not who is behind any account. With latterdayavenger’s own grid captured, every post it hosts becomes another block, and the same calculation can be run on the whole design.

Check it yourself

Confirmed in SageMath 10.9 · Oct 5, 2026

The seven posts and the matrix N are published. Standard, free math software can compute the symmetry group on its own, without anything of ours:

SageMathBuilt-in incidence structures and their automorphism groups.sagemath.org
GAPComputational group theory; the standard for permutation groups.gap-system.org
nautyGraph automorphisms; run it on the account-post incidence graph.pallini.di.uniroma1.it
B = [["TB","LDC","A","B","C"], ["TB","LDC","A","C","D"], ["TB","LDC","A","E","D"],
     ["TB","LDC","A","B","D"], ["TB","LDC","F","B","G"], ["TB","LDC","H","I","J"],
     ["TB","LDC","K","G","D"]]
D = IncidenceStructure(B)
G = D.automorphism_group()
G.order(), G.orbits()
We predicted order 12, with orbits {TB, LDC} and {H, I, J}, and every other account alone. SageMath 10.9 confirms it, as do networkx and our own count. If you get a different answer, tell us.
Our first version of this code said designs.IncidenceStructure, which Sage 10.9 does not have. Corrected October 5, 2026. Software agreeing is not peer review: what the symmetry means is still our reading.
No Sage? The data folder has verify_automorphisms.py, plain Python with no packages: python3 verify_automorphisms.py incidence_matrix.csv prints the same 12 and the same orbits. Its README explains how the count works. (The λ on this page is design theory's pair count, not lambda calculus.)
Get the data on GitHub →
New to this? The Name-Tag Test explains it in plain English, with a sign-in sheet you can try.

What the joint videos say

We transcribed the seven joint posts that have speech (two others are photos, one video is silent). After removing common words, these are the words said most, across all seven together:

god7
zion7
213th6
gathered6
joseph6
utah6
verse6
children5
chinese5
covenants5
name5
people5
scriptures5
soldiers5
Key · bar length = times the word is said, all seven transcripts together (1,762 words; 1,026 common words removed; 506 different words left)

Small numbers from short videos: scripture and gathering language (God, Zion, gathered, covenants, scriptures, Joseph Smith, Utah), plus a Korean War segment (Chinese, soldiers, Gapyeong). The names “Ballard,” “Tim” and “Chad” are not said in any of the seven.

How we missed it

Instagram’s collaborator list on a post names the credited accounts but leaves out the account that posted it. On October 4 we counted Chad’s posts whose collaborator list named Ballard. A post Ballard made himself never names him, so the December 20 post didn’t count. It was in our captures of both accounts the whole time.

The fixed rule

A post ties two accounts if either one credits the other, or if the same post appears in both accounts’ grids. Recounted that way, Chad’s 1,463 captured posts before February 18 include exactly one tied to Ballard: December 20, 2025.

Limits: Chad’s posts come from two captures merged (October 1 and October 4, 2026), 1,888 posts reaching back to June 20, 2024. Ballard’s capture reaches back to September 11, 2025. The October 1 capture did not show Ballard’s credit even on the February group posts, likely because Ballard blocks the account we viewed it from, so it cannot fully rule out an earlier tie in Chad’s oldest posts (June 2024 to January 2025). Nothing before June 2024 is covered.

Compiled October 5, 2026; Chad’s two captures merged. Sources: Instagram post pages and post data for timballard89, latterdaychad and the accounts credited with them; screenshot of instagram.com/p/DSghot5ET_3 (Oct 5, 2026); transcripts made from the posts’ own audio. More pages: Backfire tracking; the co-posting network around the group (319 accounts, 823 links). The data behind this page: docs/data/who-went-first. Corrections: github.com/AntMerrill/backfire-tracking.